whats up w/ grown men who look at all the evils of the modern world and go “the real enemy is teenage girls, with their duckface and their smartphones and their selfies and their boy bands. they are destroying culture”
I’ve never met any grown men who have said this. Way to invent a boogieman out of your own prejudiced thoughts.
credited to Jon Friedman and Joel Stein, two grown men
chris o’shea is also a grown man
this thread on The Escapist’s forums is full of grown men complaining about teenage girls doing duck face
i’m willing to admit some of the people in this thread on Social Anxiety Support Forums may just be nasty little boys, but several are grown men
About Uhura being "reduced to a love interest", I'd recommend you read some defenses of Uhura and the Spock/Uhura relationship written by black fans (they should be there if you google it...) Also remember that misogyny and stereotypes for black women are very different to those for white women or other WOC and thus a black female character having a relationship is progressive rather than the opposite. (Apologies if you are black, then obvs your feelings are probs more valid than mine).
I think there’s been a misunderstanding. The first one being that people seem to think I’m white, which I am not. I’m black. Hello. I’m Dizzy, nice to meet you.
Okay, let me clarify my problem with Into Darkness. I love Uhura. I love love love Uhura. I also agree with you. I think it’d be great for her to have a love interest, and to be seen as sexual and as a great officer at the same time. I am 100% for women claiming their sexuality and being all up on the dudes.
What I’m not for, however, is them being reduced to nothing but that. In the first Reboot movie, I could deal with Uhura being in a relationship with Spock (even though that canonically weird—whatever), because she was also shown to be the best at her trade, and to be a kick ass lady otherwise.
Not so much in Into Darkness. In the newest Star Trek movie, she has the illusion of having been given a bigger role. She’s on all the publicity photos, right alongside Kirk and Spock, which I would be all for, if it weren’t total bullshit. Uhura, in the entire fucking movie, is only obsessed with her relationship with Spock, and thus, her power as a main officer on the Bridge is largely diminished.
Like, look at the scene in the shuttle craft for example. There is no way, no way, that TOS Uhura would be bickering with her boyfriend during an important mission. She has way more professionalism than that. And then, the scene directly after that, we finally get a chance to see her do some cool, badass “I’m the best communications officer” work when she addresses the Klingons, except, nope. That backfires.
Theres also an argument I’ve seen made that I really like, which is in original canon, Uhura does get with Scotty in the fifth movie, and this is super cool, because not only does it give Uhura, a black woman, freedom of sexuality, it also shows that older women can be sexual too. Which is so unheard of. I love older!Uhura getting with people more than younger Uhura, simply because it shows that she can take the time for herself to establish her career, and can still be damn sexy when she chooses (when she chooses) to be in a relationship.
Additionally (and this wasn’t your concern, but it was others and I’m going to address it), I don’t feel this way about Uhura because I ship Spirk. I ship Spirk for very specific reasons, and I can go on for about a million years as to why I do. But it should be noted that I do not ship them in terms of the reboot. The main reasons I ship them in TOS do not presently exist in the reboot, and I am not going to fabricate a ship out of nothing. Besides, I would never, ever, let my feelings about the chemistry between two characters, compromise my feminist integrity. I would never belittle Uhura (or Carol Marcus, etc.) for the sake of Spirk, and I’m offended that people would think that I would. Not only would that be completely offensive to the women characters, but it would be damaging to people with queer identities, as worship and pedestaling a slash ship is just about as bad as hating on it.
Consequently, my argument is this: Roddenberry had a vision when he made Star Trek. That vision was seeing a future where marginalization of groups doesn’t exist—that we see each other as people and not as identities. I think it’s something to strive for, but we can’t have it until we all can recognize the importance of minority representation. Roddenberry’s future can never be if we continue to oppress and refuse to notice the problems with the now. I firmly believe that JJ Abrams does not understand Roddenberry’s vision (the whitewashing of Khan is enough proof for me). So instead of having great women on the bridge, and being amazing scientists, or whatever, JJ Abrams has reduced the women of Trek to this:
And that’s not okay with me. So I stand by my original statement. I am eternally angry that Uhura was given screentime, only to be reduced to The Girlfriend of the white, male main character.
And if you’re really a Trek fan, you should be too.